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Eddard Stark
 Posted: May 6 2013, 01:10 PM
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I agree. So Ayla, how do we go about that? Do you wanna put all the old threads from the former storyline in the archives and then we just restart? Would be nice to have some official starting signal.
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 Posted: May 7 2013, 03:44 PM
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Yes, that should do it. I will also re-write the site plot to match this idea, and just clean up the site in general (member clean-up, edit canon characters, etc). I will take care of that soon, probably tomorrow. In the meantime, consider this the official starting signal. Have at it.

If you have any threads that you would like to keep up, please tell me. Of course I will do my best, but I don't know exactly which threads are related to the old plot, so if I move/edit anything that was not meant to, please say so.
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Eddard Stark
 Posted: May 9 2013, 03:19 AM
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I think we could probably consider to keep the threads at the Wall intact since everything there is anyway somehow removed from the rest of the realm.

Of course, it could also be an option to reset there as well and have Jon leave the Night's Watch just before he takes the oath, joining to help his family. Considering how few active characters we have and how few of them are at the Wall, it's kind of tempting, since we can't really do much there.

Everything else from the previous storyline you can definitely move to the archives, I'd say. Which still leaves the question open, where we do begin with the new storyline. Do we start immediately after Ned's escape with him still being on the run? Or should he already have reached Robb's army? Or ran into Arya accidentally on his way up North?

And is there anybody in King's Landing Joffrey can interact with? Looks to me as if he's pretty much alone there at the moment...
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Ayla
 Posted: May 11 2013, 06:26 AM
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At the moment, the Wall is completely separated from the plot we decided on. Which is okay, since our main focus should be on a storyline that will help boost the site's activity. I would say we leave the story of the Wall as it is now, and once we are able to, we continue with it. I cannot say what you should do with your character Jon Snow, since it is really your decision. I understand you'd want to have him interact with the main story line.

We could always have Jeor, Jon and Rory come down to meet up with the Starks for some reason, so they can be involved without forsaking the plot at the Wall. Perhaps Jeor is still planning to march beyond the Wall, but definitely needs more men. Since Joffrey and other Lords usually ignore his requests to send more men, he may try to reason/discuss the situation with Lord Stark in person. After all, after the Night's Watch, the northerners are the ones who stand between the Wall and the realm, and the Starks have always aided the Night's Watch in the past. Do you have any other ideas that may get the Watchmen involved with the plot?

As for the new story line, where to begin.. I think it may be interesting to start not long after Eddard's escape, when he is still on the run. It gives your character more freedom, I suppose, since you can have him go anywhere. But since it concerns your character, I feel like this should mainly be your decision. Where would you prefer to have him at the beginning of the plot? Eddard can run into Arya, but that would prevent her real story in a Song of Ice and Fire from taking place. I think not immediately running into Arya will give that character more freedom, and then her player can choose what he/she would like to do with her.

Yes, there is Osmond Lannister, played by Grave. He is at King's Landing. But apart from that, it will be very quiet there. However, if Joffrey is coming to the North to reclaim his prisoner, he does not necessarily have to stay in King's Landing. If he travels to meet the rest of our characters, there would be plenty of interaction for him.
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Eddard Stark
 Posted: May 11 2013, 08:22 AM
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It would be kind of nice to have Joffrey overrule all his council about going North after Eddard but under current conditions that's not really possible to play since we have no players for that. So it doesn't make a lot of sense to play anything out in King's Landing, we could just have Joffrey appear with his army out of the blue in the North. Anybody interested to have some interaction there? Osmond Lannister could be part of that army if he's interested, of course.

I suggested for Eddard and Arya to meet because it seems that Arya can't really do much else for lack of characters she'd need. But it's up to her if she wants to do that. Also Eddard needs someone to run into, if not Robb and his army, Arya could be a good option. Or who else would be interested?

As for the Wall, we can really just let that as it is for now and try to follow the original plans, leave the realm to itself. It seems not so likely that with Ned Stark as a fugitive, Mormont would consider go to the Starks to ask for help. It's just too bad we don't have Ygritte anymore...
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Victoria
 Posted: Aug 9 2013, 05:09 PM
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Ok so I'm just gonna put everything of what we have so far in here into a summary, correct me if I missed some details.

Site's plot was reset to end of season 1's finale, with war declared and Ned alive in our AU.
    Jaime captured by Robb (according to a thread I have with Ned)

    The North& South apparently preparing for war.

    Ned being escorted to Winterfell by Haytham.

    King Joff contemplating taking the war to the north.

    Sansa Stark held hostage much like the original GoT's verse

    Arya's player's activity had dropped, she used to look in occasionally but now I haven't seen her for a month. Hopefully Ayla will be able to get a hold of her.

    Cat, well she's got a thread of her taking a ship to kingslanding but I'm sure that's a past thread.

    Theon currently in winterfell
And as for future site plot storylines:

I haven't watched season 3 yet as the dvd comes out in 2014 so I guess I will be making Robb prepare for the idea of war as well, since we lack the key lannisters such as Tywin and a Cersei so far (Cersei being applied for though)

Robb will probably end up heading to the riverlands, mustering up what allies he can get to march onto kings landing and overthrow Joff. He will probably end up giving command of the army over to his father though so wherever he goes and what war effort he puts into likely depends on what Ned has to say.

Current active canons:

Sansa Stark

Ned

Robb

Theon

King Joff

Cat

Jamie

Jon

Sandor

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Arya

Canons being apped for:

Cersei

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Eddard Stark
 Posted: Aug 11 2013, 03:00 AM
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Sounds good and accurate to me.
Jon Snow (played by me) would be available as an active canon as well if there would be any plot movement up at the Wall.
Oh, and you forgot The Hound in your list of canons.
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Jaime Lannister
 Posted: Aug 11 2013, 01:15 PM
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What is the story/status of Jaime's capture by Robb's forces?

Is Ned's escape being kept as hush-hush as Arya's so everyone outside King's Landing/the Small Council believes he's still imprisoned or is it known that he has escaped? In that case, will Catelyn be planning to free Jaime and have Brienne (NPC, since she's not currently in play by anyone unfortunately) escort him to King's Landing to trade for Sansa, Arya, and Ned? Answered. Thanks, Sean!

Or what do Catelyn and Robb plan on doing with Jaime while he's chillin' in the movable prison?

Back to Brienne, I guess she'd still be with Renly since Renly is also still alive in our AU? xD

Sorry if I've gotten my timeline mixed up a bit. Been a while since I've read/seen what happens in chronological order.
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Eddard Stark
 Posted: Aug 11 2013, 04:57 PM
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Well, I can only say something about Ned's escape. It's definitely not being kept hush-hush. Joffrey has labeled him a traitor and threatens everybody with death who helps or harbors him.
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Victoria
 Posted: Aug 12 2013, 01:04 PM
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Nope, like Sean says Ned's escape is definitely not being kept quiet as possible

And as for Cat freeing Robb...well I can still see that happening, but Robb most likely will want to keep him to ensure he gets both his sisters back safe, to him i t will not be enough to just have one sister back. So Cat freeing Jaime is still possible. But I guess she would like both of her daughters back unless she knows Arya escaped, as a mother she probably wouldn't want to believe Arya might be dead so holds onto hope so could possibly be willing to free Jaime to get Sansa out of the lion's den.

Now that I think about it, Robb would probably prefer to still hold his commander position, since he wants to prove himself to Ned, so will probably be impassively annoyed that his father just came in and took command when he's been managing and dealing with things, but will likely submit but will probably feel the need to complain to a trusted few, such as Theon.

He won't be a brat about ti though, since Ned does have more experience in war, but Robb wouldn't want to be on the sidelines either I guess.

And I don't know about Renly, I don't see why not though since you know, Ned's alive but I'm not sure about that.


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Arya Stark
 Posted: Aug 13 2013, 01:59 PM
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Going back to what Sean and I sorta kind of talked about a few months back.

Perhaps what we can do with Arya and Ned is. Having them leave Kings Landing around the same time. Each knowing the other is alive, but not knowing exactly where the other is headed. So while Arya and Ned both try to head back North they keep trying to find each other while Joffery and the rest of the Lannister forces try to keep them apart in their search for Ned.

Maybe we could even get Jon Snow involved somewhere being part of the group with Yoren to recruit people for the Wall and he could run into Arya before getting back with Ned.

All of which could slow Ned down long enough for Robb to do his own thing with the war without Ned interfering right off the bat. And potentially giving Arya time to do some stuff she did in canon despite not having any characters that she could really interact with sans the Hound. Until they can ultimately be reunited and return to the North together. While Joffery prepares for a full scale invasion of the North after over ruling his council on the decision to take the War to the Northerners.
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Ayla
 Posted: Aug 14 2013, 04:03 AM
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I think that is a very accurate summary of what is going on at the moment. As for the future plot line, we could opt for following season 3 of the series, but it would lead to a lot of unfortunate events for some canon characters that may limit them severely. (Some of you probably know what I'm hinting at, don't spoil it for those who don't! (: ) So I suggest we just figure that out when it comes to it. Who knows, we might end up taking an entirely different route. For now we might just want to follow the story, have them prepare for war, etc.

As far as I remember, Robb needs the Tully's to add to his men and expand his army? We could have him at Riverrun for a while, much like what happened in the series. (Apologies, I've only read half of the first book.) However, I wonder if Ned can afford to command an army at this point, because he is a wanted man and it would put him and his family at great risk. It might be safer to let Robb handle things, thus making him commander of the Northern army. But then again, I can see Ned being stubborn enough to do it. Any thoughts on this, Sean?

I would like to get things moving at the Wall again as well. But I feel like the site plot is our priority at the moment. Perhaps once things settle, we can give it a go.

Regarding our missing canon characters; I might be picking up Tywin in the near future, so that gap will be filled.

As for Brienne, Renly and Jaime; I partially want to keep the option open for whoever will pick Brienne up. She could be with Renly, but she could also somehow end up serving Catelyn Stark, and therefore ending up with Jaime. There's always ways to get around this. But since Brienne and Jaime have such an amazing plotline, I'd prefer to get the two together. Renly could be alive, if it does not interfere with our plot too much and if it does not give us trouble. I don't see any problems with it at this point.

Also, the possibility of Catelyn still freeing Jaime to ensure her daughters will be safe seems very likely to me.

Regarding Arya, Ned and Jon; I do like the idea of them leaving at around the same time, knowing the other is safe but not where, like Arya said. That sounds do-able, and fun, so go for it. I am not too sure about getting Jon involved as a recruiter, but of course, this is up to Sean.

What I did think of for Jon (assuming Sean wants him with the rest of the canons, until the Night's Watch becomes active again), is that he could be sent South to talk his father into sending all their soldiers to the Wall when their war is over, because there is another war coming that no one is prepared for. So not exactly a recruiter. Since he does have a good relationship with Eddard and the Night's Watch is desperate for men (and no one seems to listen to them whenever they request more men), Jeor might send the boy off. I'm not sure how this sounds to you lot, but I thought I'd throw it out there for you. It's just a thought. (:
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Eddard Stark
 Posted: Aug 15 2013, 12:54 PM
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Okay, first Jon:
I think he has a great urge to go South when he hears what has happened to his family and that there might be a war that threatens them very directly but that's all the more reason for Mormont not to send him on any kind of mission there because the risk is simply to great that he would divert from that, forget his oath and needs to be labeled a deserter. So at this point, I don't think there is any realistic chance for Jon to go South. I'm rather hoping that there will be some life back at the Wall again. I could see a trip South happening later on at some point but we're a while away from that point.

Ned/Arya/Robb:
Arya still has the problem that she doesn't really have a posting partner, right? That makes the situation a bit difficult. It's up to Arya of course but the only course of action I can think of at the moment to bring her into the game is for them to come across each other pretty soon. Haytham is bringing Ned to Riverrun, where Robb and his army will be as well at some point. If Arya and Ned met on the way there, we'd have a big family reunion eventually. And I don't mind for this to take some time so Robb has a chance to command for a bit. Ultimately when Ned is back though, it seems unlikely that he wouldn't take over as the battle experienced commander. Since Joffrey has made it clear that he's prepared to go to war with the North if they don't hand Ned over to him, it doesn't really matter if he's commanding or just in the background somewhere.

Jaime/Brienne/Renly:
As long as Stannis doesn't even know that he's the rightful heir to the throne, there won't be any conflict with Renly, hence no reason to kill him. So for now I wouldn't do anything in that direction. If Jaime wants his Brienne, there is always some way to arrange that. Maybe she finally discovered that Renly has only eyes for one: Loras. And that throws her off so much that she rides off and gets into a tussle with some Stark men. Though, as long as we have no one to play her, I don't know... I see no reason though why Catelyn wouldn't try to make a special deal with Jaime about her daughters like in the original story.

Would be great to have a Tywin! He's the actual mastermind on the Lannister side, it would up the game considerably if he'd be active.
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Adair Snakestone
 Posted: Aug 16 2013, 11:30 AM
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I can add Adair to whatever's going on at the Wall too, of course. I almost suggested that Jon could be sent with him South for recruiting, but I agree with Sean that the temptation to desert would be too great. The scene he had with Maester Aemon was heavily indicative of that, and served as a great warning to Jon to avoid the temptation.

We've barely touched season 2 on the site so we shouldn't have to worry about season 3 events for a long while yet, luckily. xDD

Yeah, I definitely agree that choice should be left up to Brienne's player. There are many ways to take it, and it might be interesting to see what could happen without a Brienne in play when/if Catelyn tries to make a special with/about Jaime in order to get her daughters back. Or, daughter back, if Arya ends up traveling with Ned and is found to be safe.

Or, you know, if we get a Tyrion and he tries to lead a disguised rescue attempt inside Riverrun to recover Jaime, maybe that could be how Jaime is freed. Or other ways. I'm cool with whatever, but I'd prefer to give Jaime some freedom away from his family so he has a chance to develop like he does in the books and has started to in the series.
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